Loan Origination Fee

Loan origination refers to the initiation and completion of the home loan process, which begins when a borrower submits their financial information to a bank or mortgage lender for loan processing.

Depending on documentation type, a borrower will have to supply certain credit, income, asset, and employment information to a specified bank or lender to initiate the underwriting of the loan application.

Along with that, the borrower will have to sign forms that allow the mortgage broker (if applicable) and bank or lender to pull a credit report and release information about the borrower.

Once the information is submitted to the appropriate bank or lender, an underwriter will decision the application, either approving, suspending, or declining the loan.

To sum it up, loan origination is simply the creation of a mortgage. It may begin with a phone call, an e-mail, a mortgage rate quote, or a referral from a real estate agent.

Loan Originators Are Salespeople

So who’s behind all this loan origination anyways?

Well, loan originators of course. They’re also known as loan officers, mortgage brokers, loan specialists or simply salespeople. Or some other cute name a company comes up with like “loan hero” or “loan scientist.”

These originators may work on behalf of individual mortgage brokers, or for large retail banks that originate thousands of mortgage loans each month.  (See mortgage brokers vs banks).

Either way, their main job duty is to get you in the door and persuade you to apply for a mortgage with them, whether it be a purchase money mortgage or a refinance.

Now this isn’t to say that they’re pushy salespeople, it just means their highest priority is “getting a sale.”

They can also be quite helpful in guiding you through the home loan process, largely because both your incentives and theirs are aligned.  You want your loan to close and they get paid when it does. So everyone is on the same page.

Breaking Down the Loan Origination Fee

origination charges

This is a screenshot of an actual Good Faith Estimate, which displays the adjusted origination costs.

The fees associated with the origination of a loan are called, you guessed it, loan origination fees.  They are typically broken down into mortgage points, which are expressed as a percentage of the loan amount.  So if the loan amount is $100,000, and you see a $1,000 loan origination fee on the paperwork, the bank or broker is charging you one (1) mortgage point.

This “loan origination fee” is paid to the loan officer or broker who initiates and completes the loan transaction with the borrower, and is only paid out if and when the loan funds.  This fee is basically the originator’s commission for getting you a loan.  Some originators may tell you that it is paid to cover loan processing/application costs, though it’s pretty common to pay those AND the loan origination fee. Go figure.

In the example above, the loan origination charge is $1,840 on a $348,000 loan amount, which makes the fee roughly half a percentage point (.50%).  This particular broker charged a $250 origination charge, a $695 processing fee, and an $895 underwriting fee, which combined make up the $1,840 total.  Note that these fees are represented as one lump sum on the Good Faith Estimate, so ask for a breakdown to see what you’re actually being charged. Or refer to your Fees Worksheet.

fees worksheet

The corresponding Fees Worksheet pictured above breaks down the origination charges. Although not pictured here, lenders typically display a percentage on the same line as the Loan Origination Fee, such as 1.000%, if applicable.  This will give you a better idea as to what you’re actually being charged.

Now let’s refer to the top screenshot again.  Our borrower also received a lender credit of $3,076.32, which offset the entire origination charge and more, resulting in an adjusted origination charge of -$1,236.32.  This amount was put toward other closing costs, reducing the borrower’s out-of-pocket expenses.

Average Loan Origination Fee

In the mortgage world, it’s hard to provide universal answers, seeing that mortgages can differ tremendously.  The loan origination fee can vary based on who you decide to work with, and how complicated your loan is.  If you’ve got a cookie-cutter loan that you can get anywhere, this fee should be low.  The opposite is also true.  Either way, the loan origination fee is negotiable!  And it can be offset using a credit, as seen above.

If I had to throw out a number, I’d say the most common origination fee is 1% of the loan amount, which many banks will include in the fine print next to their advertised rates.  Wells Fargo used to include this exact disclaimer on their mortgage rates page, but it has since been removed.

Also note that for smaller loan amounts, a larger loan origination fee will need to be charged, seeing that it’s expressed as a percentage and won’t go nearly as far as a similar percentage on a large loan.

Brokers and banks may not even charge a loan origination fee directly to the borrower, depending on the terms of the deal. A true no cost loan doesn’t include a loan origination fee paid for by the borrower because it’s an out-of-pocket expense.

However, this means your interest rate will be higher as a result (lender-paid compensation), all else being equal. Loan originators have to make money somewhere, so if it’s not being charged on the front-end, they’ll make up for it on the back-end.

Either way, all fees should always be fully disclosed on the Good Faith Estimate and HUD-1. Pay close attention to this figure to see exactly what you’re being charged, whether paid out-of-pocket or via a higher-than-market interest rate. Most upfront banks and brokers will charge 1-2% of the loan amount, although this can vary.  If you shop around, you may be able to avoid the loan origination fee altogether, and get that low rate you’re after!

Lastly, compare the origination charges, all lender fees, AND your interest rate among different banks and lenders to get the complete picture.  Looking at just one or two of these figures won’t provide an accurate assessment.

Tip: Don’t confuse loan origination charges with discount points, the latter being what you pay if you want to buy down your mortgage rate, which is totally optional.


70 Comments

  1. Tom August 2, 2013 at 7:58 pm -

    Good summary – I guess this explains why they’re able to charge a fee for it.

  2. Wes September 17, 2013 at 1:37 am -

    I wasn’t charged a loan origination fee, but I was charged more than $1,000 for loan underwriting and processing. Is that basically the same thing, just a different way of labeling it?

  3. Colin Robertson September 17, 2013 at 8:55 am -

    It can be. If the combination of all those fees appear on line 801 of the HUD-1, under “Our origination charge,” that’s basically what they’re charging to originate your loan.

  4. Dave October 22, 2013 at 9:17 am -

    Perhaps you can answer a question. I bought the house 4 months ago (6/17) and want to pay it off before six months (12/17) since I sold the other house. The mortgage broker called to say he would have to refund the origination fee to the lender in that situation and wants me to wait until after six months to pay it off. Costs me additional interest, of course. Is this common? Would it be fair to ask broker to reimburse the interest I would have to pay if I wait? There is no prepayment penalty on the loan. The origination fee was 1.75% of the loan.

  5. Colin Robertson October 23, 2013 at 2:48 pm -

    It is standard industry practice for mortgage broker agreements to include something about compensation recapture for early loan payoff. I’ve seen some that say 120 days and others that say 180 days. You just never hear too much about it because most people hold their loans a lot longer than six months.

  6. Lynell March 3, 2014 at 6:23 am -

    They sure make the origination fee confusing for as much as regulators have professed to making the form “more clear.” This is about the most confusing, non-straightforward thing I’ve ever seen.

  7. Colin Robertson March 3, 2014 at 9:33 pm -

    Just focus on your interest rate and what you actually pay out of pocket.

  8. ela May 7, 2014 at 4:38 am -

    i signed for a loan what happened to be not eligible to take for the affordable property. it was offered by a bank and they charged me 495$. they said it was but finally the processor found out it wasnt. why did they take my money if it wasnt even my knowledge to know it and also i already paid for termite inspection what was mandatory with that loan

  9. Colin Robertson May 7, 2014 at 10:27 am -

    Ela,

    I’m assuming the $495 fee was for the appraisal?

  10. Gaby June 25, 2014 at 12:19 pm -

    Is there a cap a broker can charge for an origination fee?

  11. Colin Robertson June 25, 2014 at 10:40 pm -

    Gaby,

    There are caps depending on the loan type and the lender they’re working with, along with their chosen compensation plan, but generally the fee ranges from 1-2%.

  12. dave June 29, 2014 at 5:40 pm -

    our Indiana based mortgage broker provided a form stating that their compensation is paid by the lender.

    They list a $4646 loan origination charge and then a $7188 credit for a difference of $2542 on the good faith estimate.

    how can they charge us an origination fee if their compensation is being paid by the lender or are these two different fees?

  13. Colin Robertson June 30, 2014 at 8:21 am -

    Dave,

    They have to show you their fee, even if it’s actually being paid by the lender.

  14. Ed June 30, 2014 at 1:10 pm -

    Today I asked a couple of questions to my mortgage broker about the origination points and that this is the best option to follow. And I understand why he would try to convince me. But he also send me a similar estimate for the same house but with 0 origination points and lower interest rate, but with Mortgage insurance which makes my monthly payment higher. Is the second scenario possible? If it is then who pays the borker if their payment is the origination points?

  15. Colin Robertson June 30, 2014 at 4:43 pm -

    It’s possible that a lower interest rate can have a higher overall payment if there is expensive mortgage insurance involved. And you don’t necessarily have to pay any origination fees out of pocket because banks/lenders pay brokers for giving you a slightly higher interest rate (which you pay over the life of the loan).

  16. Heidi July 15, 2014 at 2:28 pm -

    We are getting a mortgage on a house we already own. The mortgage person is asking for a deposit of $500 before they do any work and said it will only be taken if we don’t go with them. At what point do you typically make deposits or monetary promises with a mortgage company?

  17. Colin Robertson July 15, 2014 at 4:07 pm -

    Heidi,

    It’s probably a deposit for the appraisal, which they will eventually order, but if you don’t close with them it’s essentially paid for and lost. The problem with these upfront application fees is that once they’re charged, borrowers feel trapped to continue on with the lender and can’t really shop around. And if the loan is denied you’re often out of luck. You should ask them what’s it for and read accompanying paperwork before taking any action, and/or shop around and find lenders willing to do some more work before asking for any fees.

  18. Shay July 25, 2014 at 2:12 pm -

    Colin,

    I just met with my loan officer to discuss my pre-approval. I am looking to buy a 175k home. The interest rate she gave me was 5.25% (coventional and somewhat unusual loan due to my circumstances) but with no PMI. Her brokerage fee was as follows: Orignation $2500, Underwriting $895, and Processing $695 for a total of $4090. This will be my first home and as much research as I’ve done, I don’t want to be ripped off. Does this sound about right? The fee is due to her 10 days before closing. Also, do I owe her anything if I decide to hold off on buying altogether?

  19. Colin Robertson July 25, 2014 at 3:46 pm -

    Shay,

    I don’t know the loan amount or the loan program, but I’ll assume a 30-year fixed and 10% down. Those lender fees, $4,090 divided by $157,500 amount to a total percentage of about 2.6%. The origination fee is nearly 1.6% of the hypothetical loan amount, coupled with a relatively high interest rate set at 5.25%. You might be able to shop and get that down to 1% with similar or even lower uw/processing fees (and even a lower rate). I can’t tell you definitively if it’s a good deal or bad (I don’t know all your details), but you should get a few quotes from other brokers/lenders to determine what’s a fair deal for your exact situation. Good luck on your first purchase!

  20. Katherine August 4, 2014 at 2:20 pm -

    I have received several Good Faith Estimates as the loan did not get processed in the rate locked in period. The origination charge on the estimates went from $1804 to $4917. When I asked the agent about the increase, he stated that the increase was due to the rate extension that he was going to credit back to me. That credit is for $1810 only. Now he is saying the remaining increase is because of translation costs. Shouldn’t he have explicit disclosed the cost to me? Is the GFE go enough? What recourse do I have?
    Thanks.

  21. Sheila August 15, 2014 at 4:17 am -

    My issue is similar to Katherine’s. I received a Good Faith Estimate at the beginning and a guarantee that the lender would pay closing costs (this is a refi). About a month later, I received a new Good Faith Estimate that had more than tripled the origination costs and had also increased the third party costs by more than 12%. Can they do that?

  22. Colin Robertson August 15, 2014 at 10:34 am -

    Sheila,

    Are they still paying all your closing costs? Did you ask why the costs went up? If your interest rate is the same and your actual out-of-pocket costs are the same, it might not be an issue. But if you’re paying more than originally quoted, there should be a valid reason. Generally, “our origination charge” (block 1) should not change.

  23. Manish September 23, 2014 at 9:59 am -

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge with everyone.

  24. Diego September 26, 2014 at 1:48 pm -

    Hi Colin,

    My broker has change the terms of my loan 3 times on the last 6 months. This means from 30% as down payment and 12 months as a reserve. Then, he said it will be 35% with no deposit. Then, 40% and then 40% as a down payment plus 6 months of mortgage. Do I need to pay any penalty if I decide to change lender/ broker?

  25. Colin Robertson September 26, 2014 at 3:29 pm -

    Diego,

    If you don’t want to use that broker anymore, you can shop around, but note that there might be non-refundable costs you already paid. Alternatively negotiate with the guy to get his act together OR you’ll go elsewhere.

  26. MIG October 7, 2014 at 7:57 am -

    I’M in the process of buying my first home. The GFE I received from the broker is completely different from , what the lender sent me. Stating change in circumstance. Based on appraisal, can they do this.

  27. Colin Robertson October 7, 2014 at 9:25 am -

    Carefully inspect what changed and why…a low appraisal could certainly change a lot of things. But make sure it all adds up.

  28. MIG October 14, 2014 at 5:03 am -

    Thank you for your answer to my question…but the appraisal was higher than what I am paying. Now the seller has changed the closing date stating this new property not ready. Is there anything I should be worried about.

  29. Colin Robertson October 14, 2014 at 9:21 am -

    Your purchase price should be the same regardless of appraisal coming in higher. A later closing date could affect your lock if you already locked your loan. Or if you’re not locked, you’ll need to consider interest rate movement and determine the right time to lock.

  30. mike November 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm -

    We are buying a new home in a CA subdivision and it would appear that we are locked into using their lender… but I wonder what we have agreed to. Here is the language in their disclosure…??

    “2. Multiple Loan Applications – Until the Lender notifies the Borrower of its final decision on whether to originate the Loan, the Borrower agrees not to make a mortgage loan application with another lender to finance the purchase or refinance of the subject property covered by this Lock-In Disclosure/Agreement.”

  31. jane November 17, 2014 at 7:24 am -

    Hi Colin,

    We locked our rate at the beginning of our application process. We’ve now received four different GFEs with higher and higher origination fees and points each time. We thought that, once locked, these shouldn’t change. Is this correct?

  32. Colin Robertson November 17, 2014 at 9:30 am -

    Jane,

    A “changed circumstance” (different loan amount or property value or credit quality of borrower) may allow the originator to issue a revised GFE, but the increased charges should only result from the circumstance that changed.

  33. Colin Robertson November 17, 2014 at 3:09 pm -

    Mike,

    I suppose that depends on what they actually mean by final decision. Do they consider loan approval to be the final decision? And what are the repercussions? Might want to ask for clarification.

  34. Harley December 4, 2014 at 5:26 pm -

    I’m being told, by the broker that I’m working with, that the Origination charge is non-negotiable, and that this was stipulated in the Dodd-Frank Mortgage reform act of 2010? Is this true?

  35. Colin Robertson December 4, 2014 at 10:52 pm -

    Harley,

    The broker is probably referring to the compensation tier they agreed to with the lender that is originating the loan, which can only change monthly or quarterly. For example, they may have chosen to receive 1.5% of the loan amount for each loan they send to Bank X. These tiers can vary from lender to lender so they could potentially send your loan to a different bank/lender where they’ve elected to earn just 1% per loan, or to another where they earn 2% per loan.

  36. Nick December 8, 2014 at 6:37 pm -

    People: Stop using brokers, and start going directly to lenders!

    Colin,

    Please provide me your insight on the following scenarios. I locked in my rate of 4.125% on 10/1 for 30 days, which expired of 10/31. We were waiting on the Certificate of Occupancy from the seller, so we could not close until 11/28. My loan officer said there are extension fees of $525 per week (4 weeks –> total of $2100). I did not sign any document regarding these fees so I did not pay them, and I made my loan officer pay for it. Were these legitimate fees? Should I have been the one to have paid for it?

  37. Colin Robertson December 9, 2014 at 11:10 am -

    Nick,

    Lock extensions fees are real, but it’s possible for lenders to eat the fees in some cases, especially if rates are lower than they were when you locked. You can always negotiate, which it sounds like you did.

  38. Brian January 7, 2015 at 12:26 am -

    Colin, I was recently pre-approved for a 200k loan. The total origination charge is 3442$. Broken down, it’s 1737 for the origination fee, 595 for processing, and 700 for underwriting. Are all those negotiable, or are they standard fees for FHA loans? Also, do all lenders have the same FHA loan rates, or does that diff per lender?

  39. Colin Robertson January 7, 2015 at 10:29 am -

    Everything is negotiable in life, though they still have to make money for taking care of your loan, obviously. You can play hardball and see if they’ll reduce or waive some of the fees, but there’s no guarantee they’ll budge. Generally you need to have another quote that beats what they’re offering to make an argument for them to go lower. And yes, FHA rates vary by lender, just like all other mortgage rates.

  40. jason January 8, 2015 at 11:29 pm -

    Let me start by giving you some background information. My wife and I own a house that we converted to a rental. Newbies as landlords. We have been living with family rent free while searching for our second home.

    All along, our loan officer said there would be no problems funding a loan on the second home as long as we show them a one year lease agreement. We had no problems providing this information. Our renter is covering the mortgage on the first house.

    We found house number two and had the loan officer provide a pre-approval letter and we put an offer on the house, which was accepted. Great news, right? I went to the loan officer’s office to lock in our rate. No issues so far as everything was moving along nicely.

    Fast forward a week. I get a call from the mortgage company regarding my loan. The loan officer left the company and gave my file to another loan officer. She told me that I would have to show 30% equity in property numbers one in order to fund the loan. Something the original loan officer forgot to tell me. So loan officer number two tells me that we’ll need to now go through a FHA loan versus a conventional loan as I originally agreed to and signed the rate lock documents for. The FHA loan will come with mortgage insurance for an additional monthly premium of $240.

    My questions are, are the rate lock documents and pre-approval legally binding? And shouldn’t I be able to enforce the terms that I signed with loan officer number two regardless of his oversight?

    Your input is greatly appreciated.

  41. Colin Robertson January 9, 2015 at 1:12 pm -

    Generally approvals are conditional upon you satisfying all the guidelines associated with the loan.

  42. James January 19, 2015 at 6:06 pm -

    I received a GFE for a refi and noticed that the loan origination fee was $6,295 with a credit $8302.50 for an adjusted origination charge of $-2,007.50. The loan amount is 270K with a 3.75% rate. The problem I’m having is that the broker agreement has a $5,400 origination fee listed. I was told I’m not paying anything at closing, no points, no bank fees, no title fees and the appraisal fee is to be credit back. Can you explain the difference between the GFE and the brokers statement? Thank you so much!

  43. Colin Robertson January 20, 2015 at 1:01 pm -

    James,

    Ask the broker why their fee increased. The credit of $8302.05 offsets their loan origination fee and then some (other closing costs), but you should know why their fee went up because it’s possible you could get a lower rate if the credit wasn’t so high.

  44. Steve January 31, 2015 at 7:21 am -

    Funny how EVERONE always claims to be the victim of the Bad Mortgage Broker, yet most would not even be able to get a loan or such a low rate without using a broker!

  45. Mike February 2, 2015 at 3:16 pm -

    Great read…..question does a HARP loan not require an appraisal? I thought it did not and the GFE I have has $450 charge for it also what is the proper escrow amount expected?
    Thanks

  46. Colin Robertson February 3, 2015 at 11:01 am -

    Mike,

    Many HARP loans get an appraisal waiver, but not all. Inquire about why it’s needed in your case. As for escrow, it depends on many factors related to your specific loan.

  47. Mike February 24, 2015 at 8:32 pm -

    Trying to refinance under the FHA Streamline refinance. The refinance company states that we will close on Mar 2 but that my current mortgage company is requiring interest to be paid through Mar 31st. Of course I have to pay the new finance company interest through Mar until my first payment on April 1st. How is it even legal for me to be charged double interest on the same loan?

  48. Colin Robertson February 25, 2015 at 10:46 am -

    Mike,

    The problem with FHA loans is that borrowers are charged an entire month of interest no matter when they close during the month. That’s why you often hear to close toward the end of the month to avoid this. However, the rule recently changed so new FHA loans won’t be charged this post payment interest, but it only applies to loans closed on/after January 21st 2015.

  49. Chris February 25, 2015 at 9:28 pm -

    Colin,

    Purchase Price 203K with 3% seller credit
    30 yr conventional loan 5% down 4.25 interest rate
    740 credit score borrower 775 credit score co borrower

    10,6 needed to bring to closing
    Origination fee is 2.5 percent (4821) with a 4821 lender credit for the 4.25 rate

    Does this seem OK? Is the origination fee high?

  50. Colin Robertson February 26, 2015 at 11:03 am -

    Chris,

    The only way to know for sure is to shop around and see what else you’re offered.

  51. Angela March 2, 2015 at 9:17 am -

    Hi Colin,

    My husband and I got three bids for loan rates and origination fees. They all three had the same rate, and we chose the guy who, in the end, offered the lowest origination fee. Unfortunately, as we are working on applying for the loan, I realized they are charging an additional processing fee and underwriting fee which together equal $695. This is separate from the origination fee because it is only $425. The other company made it clear that all of their fees are included in the origination fee, and I assumed all of them did the same. Now that I see these additional fees, this company no longer has the best deal and it seems dishonest to me that these two fees were not included in the origination fee. What do you think?

    Thank you for any advice,

    Angela

  52. Colin Robertson March 2, 2015 at 10:55 am -

    Hey Angela,

    It’s not uncommon to charge a mixture of fees like underwriting/processing and an origination fee. That’s why it’s important to go through all the costs with a fine-tooth comb when comparing lenders. Perhaps you can try to negotiate the fees somewhat if you feel you’ve been wronged.

  53. Kyle March 5, 2015 at 12:50 am -

    Colin,

    Buying an inventory home on the last day of the month (Jan), the home builder offered me $11k towards closing from their “preferred lender” (which the builder owns 65% of) and then neglected to point out a clause in the contract that caped that to 3% of total purchase. ($245k) so I’m feeling a little taken advantage of… plus their origination fee is 2.75 %…Do i have any grounds to fight back?

    Thanks,

    Kyle

  54. Colin Robertson March 5, 2015 at 1:25 pm -

    Kyle,

    Not sure, but there’s always negotiating in the mortgage world…maybe argue for a slightly lower interest rate, etc.

  55. chakira March 14, 2015 at 2:09 pm -

    Hi Collin,
    i m in the process of refinancing for a lower rate. i have two offers. The first one is the streamline mortgage and they are asking me to bring one month mortgage payment at closing to put in my escrow account and i ll get one month off my mortgage payment. The second lender is asking for an appraisal fee of $475, i ll get a $1000 back at closing as a bonus and two months off my mortgage payment and they’ll put money in my escrow and add it to my loan amount. They are both offering me the same rate. i don’t know which one will be more beneficial to me. I also would like to know if they always charge a loan origination fee even with a streamline FHA mortgage.

  56. Colin Robertson March 16, 2015 at 9:33 am -

    Chakira,

    Generally the lowest interest rate and fees is the best deal, obviously. If both rates are the same, lower fees prevail. Lenders have to make money so they charge origination fees, though borrowers may not actually pay them out of pocket. They may issue a credit to cover costs in exchange for a higher rate.

  57. Joe March 26, 2015 at 12:28 am -

    Hi Collin,

    I have been working with a loan officer to refinance my home. He claimed that he would not charge any fees for refinancing, and he is going to get paid only by the lender. Now I have received a paper(to be signed and approved by me) from Escrow that say about $6500 will been added to my mortgage which goes to my loan officer.
    My questions is:
    Can I cancel all transactions and stop working with my current loan officer since I have lost my trust in him? Would it cost me money?

  58. Colin Robertson March 30, 2015 at 4:17 pm -

    Joe,

    You may want to ask for clarification about where that money is actually coming from and if it’s really being added to your mortgage. If you want to cancel there may be cancellation fees or you can explore your right of rescission.

  59. Chet April 8, 2015 at 9:55 am -

    When it comes to escrow, one company quoted me escrow for 2 months and another company quoted me for 12 months….what is the norm here? Why did they quote me different amounts based on the months?

  60. Colin Robertson April 8, 2015 at 12:21 pm -

    Chet,

    Perhaps one is requiring impounds and the other is not? Ask them.

  61. DiAnne April 13, 2015 at 12:28 pm -

    Colin,

    I would like to shop lenders.

    Do they typically run credit checks before quoting their fees? If so, won’t this hurt my credit rating if run by several potential lenders?

    What is a reputable resource when comparing lenders. Lending Tree?

  62. Colin Robertson April 13, 2015 at 3:34 pm -

    Hi DiAnne,

    You can get quotes without running your credit, though it’s just a quote, not a commitment. You can also have your credit pulled by multiple mortgage lenders during a certain period of time and have it only count against you once, assuming a certain FICO score version is being used. And FICO scores ignore mortgage inquiries made during the 30 days prior to scoring. There are many comparison services nowadays, including Bankrate, Zillow, LendingTree, etc. Best to do your due diligence to ensure they are upstanding lenders.

  63. Kimberly April 14, 2015 at 4:39 am -

    I am in the process of a re-fi and scheduled to close in the next few days. I like the company I’m with and the new one will throw my loan on the open market. I’m all of a sudden not feeling comfortable with the new loan. If I do not close do I owe anything beyond the inspection fee legally?

  64. Colin Robertson April 14, 2015 at 11:45 am -

    Kimberly,

    It depends what you signed and if you paid for non-refundable items like appraisal and so forth. Borrowers are also given a chance to rescind on certain refinances.

  65. Tammy April 17, 2015 at 7:01 pm -

    Hello and thank you for the insightful article. We were within days of closing on house and found out the title was not clear therefore we were unable to close. Are we required to pay the origination fee if we go with another lender now?

  66. Colin Robertson April 20, 2015 at 10:37 am -

    Tammy,

    The origination fee should only be paid if the loan actually closes.

  67. Cathy May 19, 2015 at 9:23 am -

    Colin – I am doing a VA streamline and the origination fee for a $479,700, 3.375 % 30 yr fixed rate loan is $8,520.58 which is almost 2% of the loan. Additional settlement charges are $6,222.88 for a total of $14,743.46.

    Mortgage broker is telling me that to get that rate, the origination fee is higher.

    Should I shop around more? I thought VA Streamlines were considered pretty simple since an appraisal isn’t required, etc. I also thought that VA loans couldn’t exceed 1% for the origination fee.

    Could you please advise?

    thanks, Cathy

  68. Colin Robertson May 19, 2015 at 8:40 pm -

    Cathy,

    There is a 1% cap for origination. Maybe that total includes discount points, which are paid by the borrower to lower the interest rate. Ask them to break down all the costs line by line.

  69. Kathleen Ennis May 21, 2015 at 2:57 pm -

    I am at the tail end of a refinance (no cash out). My broker initially told me there were no origination fees. Since my rate was higher than I had hoped (4.1% and I have a 795 credit score/plenty of equity), this calmed me a bit. I am now hours away from signing and the final cost breakdown includes an “Origination Charge” of for $1925. When I questioned my broker, she responded thus:
    “Ok, I wish they would breakdown the costs like we used to do and not label them “origination.” As of 2010, the government started lumping underwriting, processing, and admin fees together on the Good Faith Estimate. The $1925 are bank fees are charged on every loan. They break down like this: Processing $650, Underwriting $675, and Admin $600. Back in the day, companies like us would charge all of those fees in addition to a 1% origination fee that would go to the loan officer. So, in plain English, these are the banks fees…not ours.”

    Is this correct? This is why I waited so long to refi….I loathe this pervasive feeling that I’m getting duped.

  70. Colin Robertson May 21, 2015 at 3:42 pm -

    Kathleen,

    As pointed out in the article, banks may sometimes just charge lender fees as opposed to an outright origination fee, and they will be lumped together as the origination charge. At the end of the day they are still fees. Maybe you can ask them to ditch the admin fee if you’re unhappy about it.

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